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archangels ghosts and Bigfoot oh my it's

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just another night for Supernatural

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girls real stories real answers to

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life's biggest supernatural mysteries

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and now for another exciting interview

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with Errol experts in this world and

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others here's your host paranormal

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researcher Patricia Baker on the one the

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[Music]

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welcome everyone to another very

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exciting episode of Supernatural girls

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radio I am your host Patricia Baker and

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I am here with my co-host all the way

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from sunny Tucson miss Patricia Kirkman

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how are you PK absolutely fabulous our

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weather has turned cool enough I could

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Wow Wow Wow I'll tell you what it's

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gotten a little too chilly here I have

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my little ski parka on today in my snow

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boots even though thank God we didn't

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have any snow it's chilly I hear I heard

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a rumor it's gonna warm up by the end of

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the week I'm hoping and praying that it

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does but anyways we have got a great

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show for everybody tonight do we not

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yeah yes we've got Carl Higdon and his

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lovely wife Marjorie and we had a few

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technical difficulties with the video so

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we're gonna start with the phone who

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knows maybe we'll be able to get the

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video working at some point but they are

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they just the most adorable couple

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aren't they oh they're far too sweet

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yes very sweet and they have the most

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amazing story to tell is it a real story

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it's a true story

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with real evidence everybody and we are

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lucky enough to have them on this show

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and this is all thanks to one of our

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former guests Leo sprinkle Leo is the

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one who told us about this amazing case

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and he is close friends also with

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Marjorie and Carl and he said these

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people have an incredible case it's not

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talked about much and it's really too

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bad it isn't because I think it's one of

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the absolute best UFO abduction cases

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ever and why I'm saying that and you

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know this PK it's because the evidence

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it's just I mean you just can't turn

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away from the evidence the evidence is

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physical and it's there what do you

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think about this absolutely

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mind-boggling

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I could not believe it as I going

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through this and I'm just fascinated

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absolutely fascinated by this I can't

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wait to have Carl tell us about his

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adventure and Marjorie tawdry as well

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because she got the she got the scare

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side yeah where the heck are husband

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went so yes so we're gonna be talking to

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these lovely folks in just a couple of

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minutes but first pk we have to find out

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a little bit about the numbers what's

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going on we've had craziness again in

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New York City yes firstly you've got to

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remember this is that our month change

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so this is a new month it's a universal

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three month and it's all about

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communications creativity and everything

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going crazy from the outside so what's

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happening is everybody's got something

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to say something to do and they don't

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know what to do about it

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but it is a wonderful time if you pay

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attention there is a lot to share

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communications of all forms are going to

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go out we're going to find out that the

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weak link this month is going to deal

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with the throat and lungs because you

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will find that if you don't speak your

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truth something may be a little raspy or

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if you start getting a sore throat stop

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and think what did I not say that I was

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okay so speak your truth or you're going

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to end up with some kind of illness sore

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throat coughing something like that we

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don't want that nobody wants that

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but the nice thing about this month is

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the creativity and the communication

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abilities are very good can be very

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scattered but there's a luck factor that

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goes with it so if you get that inkling

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to baby take a flyer on something this

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month by all means do so stand a better

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chance of winning this month that that

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most threes and fives are always have a

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winning element to them time to buy the

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lottery tickets that's right I was going

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to stop on the way home but I had to get

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home to take a look at you look at that

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how sweet well we we have some great

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stories on our Facebook page again I

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everybody to make a visit over there

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because you've got some really unusual

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stories about men in black we've got

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some more UFO sightings that have come

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around it's a lot of UFO sites I mean

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more than ever before I was basing this

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remember this is all about

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communications it's going to be coming

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up this month well maybe this again huh

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about time yes I'm ready

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thank you Georgie's on the show it's

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time we got to start interviewing the

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aliens you know we're interviewing the

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abductees the people that have these

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scary experiences but I think it's not

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gonna be the alien so open invitation

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guys and gals out there in cosmic space

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so yeah I think it's time to find out

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what they have to say they can come down

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here and have a seat next to me or you

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and will we'll have a chat I think our

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audience would enjoy it and what about

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you what do you think I think that's a

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great idea and you know who you're

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talking about all the things coming up

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this month because of the creative side

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we're talking about the dreams and

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dreaming and what yes with dreams I

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think that is excellent not for people

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to get in touch with so thank you and

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it's a little bit more about that yes I

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think people should get in touch with me

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if they want to do any any work on your

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dreams at all if you want to get a

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little deeper into these levels of

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consciousness then this is the way to do

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dreaming is your ticket I'll be happy to

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help anybody who wants to do that kind

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of work and learn more about it personal

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symbols universal symbols this is what

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I've done for so many years and I love

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it it's one of my most favorite things

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to do and also to visit you for the

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numbers if you want to know what your

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numerology looks like then Patricia

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Kirkman comm that's where you want to go

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I pay a visit to Patricia Kirkman and up

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an appointment so you can find out what

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it's gonna look like for you in the

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coming year and certainly the energy has

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been wild and so it's good to get a hint

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on it know how to handle your own energy

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as you move forward and he won't dream

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so we're here to help and you can

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through the website which is super

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and so you can keep track of all these

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tremendous guests that we have tonight

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the archives and listen to it there you

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there that wants to hear from our guests

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of what happened the day that her

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husband went hunting and the dates just

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so everybody knows that we're talking

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about this happened on October 25th 1974

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and Carl was 41 years old at the time he

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was an oil well driller he had the day

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off he decided to go elk hunting so at

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home was his lovely wife Marjorie and

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their four children and we're gonna pick

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it up from there we're gonna all about

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it now if you have questions for

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Marjorie and Carl then you can write

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those in the chat room and we will ask

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those questions for you on your behalf

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so Marjorie Carl are you there are you

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the video to come back up oh gosh that's

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great well Marjorie we're gonna start

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with you anyway so while Carl is working

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on the video so again welcome to the

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show thank you so much for joining us

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to hear from you now you were at home

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that day Carl went off hunting tell us

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what happened how to set this up for us

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I had been at work that day and I had

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come home from work and around 4 o'clock

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roughly and I just had this uneasy

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feeling that I had to go find my husband

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I knew he had gone hunting I had no idea

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where he had gone he had said he was

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going out to out south probably to the

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McCarty Canyon but I had this idea I had

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to go look for him

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I caught my girlfriend and asked her if

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she would take me out and and help me

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look for him and she kind of settled me

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down and she explained that if Carl bag

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did nelq it would take him some time to

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field-dress it and carry it out and she

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told me just be patient

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supper and as I worked more with supper

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the phone rang and it was Carl's Foreman

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had called and he wanted to know where

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Carl is and I told him I really did not

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know and he told me that they had

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someone on the phone on the company

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radio and they we think this man has

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been hurt it sounds like Carl but we're

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not for sure Wow now where did he go

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honey and again I told him I really

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didn't know where he went

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I just knew we had gone hunting and the

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office in Riverton had established that

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it was Carl's company pickup and that

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the man on the radio was probably Carl

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and the sheriff said that the game

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warden had talked with Carl earlier that

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afternoon and Carl was standing in front

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of his pickup parked on a knoll and I

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his pickup was parked on a knoll that

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afternoon and so they had narrowed it

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down to the forest south of town

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and have pinpointed the general area so

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unless here you must have felt a little

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bit better that at least they saw his

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pickup at least they saw him he may have

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been injured but at least they found him

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that must have made you feel a little

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bit better well not exactly that kind of

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made me want to go to him and I had to

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go to him then oh sure way I felt and

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what town did this happen in this is

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just a question that came up in the chat

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this happened out south out south in the

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forest area medicine animal forest so go

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ahead so they found him and they found

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his truck and a knoll that's a very

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strange thing that it was in the null so

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go ahead what happened to all that no no

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you got that wrong okay though the

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pickup was was parked on well so I'm

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parked on top of a hill well in the game

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warden talk to him then they had kind of

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pinpointed the area from there oh and

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then there was a search party

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of I I don't remember how many

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four-wheel drive pickups that went out

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for the in the search party

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once again I called my girlfriend and

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told her that they were going out to

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look for Carl and asked if her and her

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husband would help me and take me out

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and they came right down and picked me

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up and we went out to the forest also

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they would not allow Marilyn and Don and

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I to go on out to where they were going

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where they made us stay in the forest on

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top of the hill okay he kept calling on

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the CB to see if they had found him yet

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I'm just going to quote a reply came

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back see him he'll we aren't even into

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the

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yet we keep getting stuck and have to

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pull each other it is a hell of a mess

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in here

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stay on the hill don't even think of

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coming in here we will call you when we

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find him in his office still has him on

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the company radio we are pretty sure of

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the area and we set in the pickup on top

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of the hill waiting deer and is we were

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waiting we kind of decided well we might

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as well get a little bit of rest my

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girlfriend leaned her head back on the

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back of the pickup seat and started to

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doze off when all of a sudden she

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hollered quit moving the truck and we

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both still know we're not moving the

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truck and she said look at that star

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it's moving and changing colors and

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doing crazy things and God told her just

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go to sleep you're dreaming just leave

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us alone and go back to sleep and then a

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little bit late and I want to make a

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note - that night was not a full moon

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but that night you could have picked up

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a dime on the forest road it was that

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in its own right in a little after a

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little while the seed the search party

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called back on the CB and told dawn that

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we have Carl but we're going out a

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different way it'll be a lot easier to

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go out by the gate at the bottom meet us

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there and so we met him there but as we

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were waiting for them to come out

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through the bottom again you're in the

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mountains so we were on a hill they were

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coming in through the bottom part and

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circling around and then coming up to

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get out through the gate at that time we

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both made the remark the Sun is just

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coming up not thinking about the time of

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the night and that it was way too early

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for the Sun to become

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mean up so what were you seeing where

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was he in a bright orange light a bright

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orange light bright big okay really

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we were waiting for Carl so we didn't

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even think anything more about it at

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that time sure when they brought Carl

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out the first thing I did was I ran over

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to the pickup they had Carl in but he

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seemed different and I tried to talk to

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him and he he was just he just like he

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was looking through me finally I asked

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him did you get your elk the only thing

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I could think of and he looked dazed and

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then he looked up through the windshield

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and in a sing-song type of voice he said

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they took my elk they took my elk and

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Carl his shivering so bad he's so cold

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so I took my coat off and tried to drape

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it over his shoulders but he moved back

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crying don't you touch me don't touch me

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and I'm here I don't I don't know what's

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wrong so I told dawn I said get the

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rifle get it out of the truck I don't

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know what's wrong with him

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so dawn took rifle out of the gun holder

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and he disappeared and I tried to talk

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to him again

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but he just kept looking up through the

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windshield towards the sky and he just

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kept repeating they took my elk

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they took my elk and by this time

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everybody had filled their pickups with

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extra gas that they had brought and they

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were ready to go and his Foreman bud

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decided that the condition Carl was in

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they better take him to the hospital and

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I'll move either yes Don cept me by the

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shoulders and led me back to his truck

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and then we headed down the road

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following to the hospital in Rawlins

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but on through the hospital but on the

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way to the hospital one of Carl's

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company men had driven all the way down

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from Riverton Wyoming and to see if he

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could help and he stopped the

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conservative search crew and asked him

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if Carl would be better maybe in his car

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and so he stopped and he opened up the

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back door to his car and opens it to let

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Carl get in and that is when all hell

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broke loose

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oh no oh yes

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Carl bolted and ran from from the pickup

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the deputy sheriff friends to the side

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of the ditch he crouches down with his

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gun drawn and steadied on his knee ready

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to shoot if he needed Carl is not acting

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like himself and no one knows what he

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might do

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oh my god running a cherry line they

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might have shot him ah Carl is running

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with his arms over his eyes he is

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running and screaming the lights oh god

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the lights I finally realized that it

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was the car lights that was bothering

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him so I I scream for them to turn him

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off and so then bud and I both hollered

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for everyone to turn off their lights as

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soon as we turn the lights off Carl

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calmly walked over to the back door of

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Roy's car slams it shut

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Alton's the front door gets in and shuts

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the door and once again the search party

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is headed for the hospital Carl is

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sitting in the front seat with Roy and

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he talks with him he wants to know why

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Roy isn't dressed in black doesn't the

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Sun burn you and Carl talked about the

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hundred and sixty-three thousand light

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mile trip into outer space he talked of

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a lot of things about his trip that to

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this day Roy will not talk about

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like to nadinekarl karl is taken yes

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karl has taken to the Memorial Hospital

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emergency room in Rawlins Wyoming his

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eyes are watering profusely his shoulder

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hurts he keeps asking for his three-day

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pills the one that just floated to him

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and we had a new doctor on duty his name

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was dr. Tonko and he was karl was one of

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his first patients he's interested by

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what this patient is telling him about

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the beans dressed in black about his

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hundred and sixty-three thousand light

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mile journey cone hands that when waved

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everything disappeared not walking just

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floating just go from here to there no

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walking the lights the lights they

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burned they burned and I'm sorry but

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every time we talk of the light Karl's

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eyes start watering they're wrong oh my

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god all these years later oh my god we

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hear all these years later and even

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talking about it now the inside of me is

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vibrating happened every time what a

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serious oh my goodness

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Marjorie oh my god my heart goes out to

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you I know yours does 2pk this week yes

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yeah I I mean we're just on the edge of

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our seats here and we both have chills

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running through us because this is a

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very scary story much scarier than I

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imagined having read that read about

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this and having heard about it goes on

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and on

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dr. taco dr. taco was so intrigued that

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he even makes notes of this in Carl's

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medical records it was good girl thinks

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he's in an Abney chic state he doesn't

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even know who he is

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when his wife asked him his name he says

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they keep calling me Carl who's Carl ahh

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oh my goodness and I read in Marion

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Devon

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we had been married 17 years at that

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time I believe and he didn't recognize

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you

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no but he was very nice he called me the

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very nice even the down side he's smart

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and then I would like to like the

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audience to know that dr. taco ordered

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the tests and he also ordered the truck

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drug test to see if Carl is on drugs

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his remark the replay this man is

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talking he must be on something and then

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the nurse in the emergency room she

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tried to make Carl comfort comfortable

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and she put a wash cloth over his eyes

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to sue them and she had to fold them

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several times so that the lights

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wouldn't bother his eyes and then she

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would take her hands and go over his

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body and ask him do you hurt do you hurt

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and Carl would say it hurts it hurts but

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when she went back over these same areas

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again it feels better now we don't

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understand well I know we're gonna have

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I'll hear more from you Marjorie and

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then we're gonna get Carl with us but

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right now we have to take a very short

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commercial break now everybody you are

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listening to the first interview in over

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30 years with Marjorie and Carl higdon

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and this is all about the alien

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abduction that took place in Wyoming and

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this happened again I'm gonna give you

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the date October 25th of 1974 and this

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is an incredible story it's a true story

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and we're going to get into more of the

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physical evidence and the rest of the

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time we have together tonight incredible

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incredible

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thank you Marge everybody just stay with

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us fasten your seat belts this is going

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to be a great ride you're listening to

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Supernatural girls on radio we'll be

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right back welcome back everyone to

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another exciting episode here at

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Supernatural girls radio we

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our speaking with Marjorie Higden and we

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are eventually going to get her husband

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Karl on the line with us karl was the

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focus of an incredible abduction that

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took place in Wyoming in 1974 and it has

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everything all of the elements including

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physical proof now we've just been on

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the edge of our seat listening to

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Marjorie talk about her experience of

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what happened when her husband went

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missing in the mountains of Wyoming he

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was on an elk hunting expedition and he

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didn't come home

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so he's been found just to bring you up

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to speed on this and they brought him to

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a hospital and he is in some type of

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amnesiac state where he doesn't even

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recognize his own wife he's not even

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sure who he is it has been an incredible

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incredible listen to Marjorie this

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evening and we're going to have her

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continue for just a little while longer

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and then we're going to bring Carl on to

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hear what happened that day in 1974

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so Marjorie welcome back to the show we

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are talking about what happened in the

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hospital so please continue okay and the

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doctor has come back with the results of

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the test he is in Abney shock and he is

539
00:26:50,799 --> 00:26:46,679
not on any drugs no drugs are found in

540
00:26:56,149 --> 00:26:50,809
his bloodstream at all I would like to

541
00:26:59,419 --> 00:26:56,159
emphasize that and Carl just called me

542
00:27:01,010 --> 00:26:59,429
the pretty lady from the emergency she

543
00:27:08,589 --> 00:27:01,020
doesn't know who I am

544
00:27:18,439 --> 00:27:14,959
yeahmaybe was flirting with me twice

545
00:27:21,169 --> 00:27:18,449
then right but since he couldn't

546
00:27:23,149 --> 00:27:21,179
remember anything I gave him a pencil

547
00:27:26,839 --> 00:27:23,159
and paper and told him to write down

548
00:27:29,929 --> 00:27:26,849
anything he can remember that is when he

549
00:27:31,580 --> 00:27:29,939
drew a picture of the being many draws a

550
00:27:34,490 --> 00:27:31,590
fork in the road

551
00:27:37,220 --> 00:27:34,500
and then he writes the tillow street and

552
00:27:40,779 --> 00:27:37,230
he says this is all he can remember he

553
00:27:44,360 --> 00:27:40,789
is tired the fork in the road has to do

554
00:27:48,789 --> 00:27:44,370
with he had planned to go hunting in the

555
00:27:52,430 --> 00:27:48,799
McCarty Canyon there were some two

556
00:27:53,930 --> 00:27:52,440
hunters that their pickup was stalled he

557
00:27:56,659 --> 00:27:53,940
stopped to help them

558
00:27:59,200 --> 00:27:56,669
he got it started for him and they told

559
00:28:02,330 --> 00:27:59,210
him the hunting was better in the forest

560
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:02,340
no he had planned to go hunting in

561
00:28:09,950 --> 00:28:05,490
McCarty Canyon but went in the forest

562
00:28:20,210 --> 00:28:09,960
instead was this planned or what it just

563
00:28:22,310 --> 00:28:20,220
happened yes anyway later as Karl gets

564
00:28:26,120 --> 00:28:22,320
some rest I gather up all of his

565
00:28:29,060 --> 00:28:26,130
clothing to take home and his Foreman

566
00:28:33,710 --> 00:28:29,070
that came down from Riverton takes me

567
00:28:36,980 --> 00:28:33,720
home when we arrive at my house the Sun

568
00:28:41,389 --> 00:28:36,990
is just coming up in the east you got to

569
00:28:44,149 --> 00:28:41,399
remember this is hours later I made a

570
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:44,159
comment that I thought the Sun had

571
00:28:49,549 --> 00:28:47,250
already risen we both commented that

572
00:28:52,460 --> 00:28:49,559
this was very unusual but we're both too

573
00:28:55,940 --> 00:28:52,470
tired and exhausted and didn't think

574
00:28:58,820 --> 00:28:55,950
anything more about it I go into the

575
00:29:01,220 --> 00:28:58,830
house and get ready to just take a

576
00:29:07,159 --> 00:29:01,230
shower and lay down I'm exhausted

577
00:29:09,889 --> 00:29:07,169
and when I put Karl's things on the top

578
00:29:14,260 --> 00:29:09,899
of the bureau something falls out of the

579
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:14,270
canteen it is a mangled piece of metal I

580
00:29:18,620 --> 00:29:16,890
just put the medal back on top of the

581
00:29:21,110 --> 00:29:18,630
bureau and I went to bed went to sleep

582
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:21,120
the phone rang several times people

583
00:29:26,090 --> 00:29:24,450
wanted to know how he is and as I talked

584
00:29:27,830 --> 00:29:26,100
to some of them I told him something

585
00:29:29,919 --> 00:29:27,840
about this mangled piece and they told

586
00:29:33,289 --> 00:29:29,929
me to take it to the sheriff

587
00:29:36,769 --> 00:29:33,299
so after showering and change of clothes

588
00:29:38,570 --> 00:29:36,779
I took it went to the sheriff and asked

589
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:38,580
him that they knew what it was well the

590
00:29:43,399 --> 00:29:40,530
sheriff was gone but the deputy looked

591
00:29:44,340 --> 00:29:43,409
at it and he took it to the back room

592
00:29:46,830 --> 00:29:44,350
and came back

593
00:29:49,710 --> 00:29:46,840
and he said it is a shell casing I have

594
00:29:53,210 --> 00:29:49,720
never seen one in this condition it

595
00:29:56,580 --> 00:29:53,220
looks like it has been turned inside out

596
00:30:00,210 --> 00:29:56,590
Lord took it into another room he came

597
00:30:03,510 --> 00:30:00,220
back again he handed it back to me and

598
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:03,520
verified it is a seven millimeter mag

599
00:30:10,770 --> 00:30:06,850
shell I asked him how did it get in this

600
00:30:15,990 --> 00:30:10,780
shape he replies leave it alone it was a

601
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:16,000
weird night just leave it alone I told

602
00:30:20,850 --> 00:30:17,770
the deputy what Carl wrote on the paper

603
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:20,860
she then says Enders I don't know what

604
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:21,730
that means

605
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:24,850
the deputy shows there was an Enders in

606
00:30:29,970 --> 00:30:27,730
the forest the same night but he was in

607
00:30:34,110 --> 00:30:29,980
a completely different area of the

608
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:34,120
forest again he tells me don't question

609
00:30:42,029 --> 00:30:39,730
it leave it alone hmm Carl's memory did

610
00:30:45,510 --> 00:30:42,039
not return until our oldest daughter

611
00:30:47,850 --> 00:30:45,520
Rose came into his hospital room it was

612
00:30:50,850 --> 00:30:47,860
like he was programmed to get his memory

613
00:30:53,490 --> 00:30:50,860
back as soon as he saw her as soon as he

614
00:30:57,690 --> 00:30:53,500
saw her he knew everything he knew who

615
00:30:59,630 --> 00:30:57,700
he was who I was where he was he just

616
00:31:04,260 --> 00:30:59,640
seemed to be okay again

617
00:31:07,049 --> 00:31:04,270
and the doctor told him that he was okay

618
00:31:10,409 --> 00:31:07,059
and he could go home well The Daily

619
00:31:12,690 --> 00:31:10,419
Times and our newspaper there and

620
00:31:16,020 --> 00:31:12,700
Rollins got a hold of it and found out

621
00:31:18,740 --> 00:31:16,030
about the search party and she called to

622
00:31:23,580 --> 00:31:18,750
find out if the story was true she

623
00:31:25,590 --> 00:31:23,590
talked to Carl his remark I don't know

624
00:31:27,450 --> 00:31:25,600
if you want to talk to a crazy man or

625
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:27,460
not that's crazy

626
00:31:34,110 --> 00:31:31,690
oh my Paul couldn't believe it yeah it's

627
00:31:37,169 --> 00:31:34,120
such an unusual experience this is not a

628
00:31:40,950 --> 00:31:37,179
man who would ever think of anything

629
00:31:44,100 --> 00:31:40,960
like this ever I mean this is such an

630
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:44,110
inanimate ooh who he was now also I just

631
00:31:48,510 --> 00:31:46,210
unfortunately got kicked off the air for

632
00:31:51,950 --> 00:31:48,520
a minute but I'm back there are also a

633
00:31:56,070 --> 00:31:51,960
couple of pieces of evidence of medical

634
00:31:57,539 --> 00:31:56,080
value about his tuberculosis scars how

635
00:32:01,649 --> 00:31:57,549
that was cleared up do you want

636
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:01,659
talk about that for a minute yes when we

637
00:32:08,810 --> 00:32:04,450
were going together he was in the

638
00:32:11,909 --> 00:32:08,820
hospital and he had spots on his lungs

639
00:32:15,919 --> 00:32:11,919
and then after we were married

640
00:32:19,489 --> 00:32:15,929
several years later he was passing

641
00:32:23,639 --> 00:32:19,499
kidney stones and he passed quite a few

642
00:32:27,119 --> 00:32:23,649
since the experience he no longer has

643
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:27,129
any spots on his lungs he has not passed

644
00:32:33,690 --> 00:32:29,730
another kidney stone

645
00:32:36,989 --> 00:32:33,700
so everybody says these people are are

646
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:36,999
they evil are they of the devil

647
00:32:41,999 --> 00:32:40,210
no I do not believe they were evil and I

648
00:32:44,999 --> 00:32:42,009
do not believe they were of the devil

649
00:32:47,700 --> 00:32:45,009
they helped him they did not hurt him

650
00:32:50,220 --> 00:32:47,710
and that's good news it puts our minds

651
00:32:52,499 --> 00:32:50,230
at rest with all of that and the other

652
00:32:55,259 --> 00:32:52,509
thing that they found in his blood work

653
00:32:57,419 --> 00:32:55,269
was that his blood work was I mean it

654
00:33:01,200 --> 00:32:57,429
showed an enrichment of vitamins and

655
00:33:06,139 --> 00:33:01,210
minerals right they they called it super

656
00:33:11,580 --> 00:33:08,549
that was just the remark that was made

657
00:33:16,259 --> 00:33:11,590
his blood was very good and they called

658
00:33:18,899 --> 00:33:16,269
it it's even super oh my god amazing

659
00:33:21,119 --> 00:33:18,909
amazing well this has been this has been

660
00:33:22,799 --> 00:33:21,129
a wonderful start to our evening I wish

661
00:33:24,749 --> 00:33:22,809
we had you all night long Marjorie

662
00:33:27,060 --> 00:33:24,759
because there's so much to the story I

663
00:33:28,769 --> 00:33:27,070
also want to let everybody know that you

664
00:33:32,070 --> 00:33:28,779
are in the process of writing a book

665
00:33:33,599 --> 00:33:32,080
about this experience it's not ready yet

666
00:33:35,489 --> 00:33:33,609
but when it is we're going to announce

667
00:33:38,039 --> 00:33:35,499
it so people will know that they can go

668
00:33:39,899 --> 00:33:38,049
to Amazon and buy it this is a book I

669
00:33:42,749 --> 00:33:39,909
know everybody's going to want to read

670
00:33:45,239 --> 00:33:42,759
it's it's going to be tremendous and you

671
00:33:47,729 --> 00:33:45,249
have another book also about your own

672
00:33:50,519 --> 00:33:47,739
personal experience with brain surgery

673
00:33:53,279 --> 00:33:50,529
and how Carl nursed you back to health

674
00:33:55,139 --> 00:33:53,289
which is a just so heartwarming so these

675
00:33:56,940 --> 00:33:55,149
two books will be available when they

676
00:33:59,489 --> 00:33:56,950
are we will let everybody in our

677
00:34:01,799 --> 00:33:59,499
audience know so they can purchase them

678
00:34:04,950 --> 00:34:01,809
and read it and hear it directly from

679
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:04,960
you so in the meantime where's Carl can

680
00:34:09,750 --> 00:34:07,090
we get him on the phone and talk to him

681
00:34:10,980 --> 00:34:09,760
about what he read he's he's still

682
00:34:13,649 --> 00:34:10,990
trying to work

683
00:34:21,359 --> 00:34:13,659
on this but let me give the phone over

684
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:21,369
to him okay Donald hello Karl

685
00:34:25,169 --> 00:34:23,530
well we haven't here you're part of the

686
00:34:28,230 --> 00:34:25,179
story we just heard from your beautiful

687
00:34:31,139 --> 00:34:28,240
wife and all of what she went through

688
00:34:34,859 --> 00:34:31,149
now tell us about your experience you

689
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:34,869
went out to hunt elk you did see a herd

690
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:37,330
of elk and you fired a shot at the

691
00:34:52,790 --> 00:34:47,050
biggest male and what happened well

692
00:35:04,260 --> 00:34:57,230
went out about 50 feet and dropped uh

693
00:35:07,530 --> 00:35:04,270
its dropped to the ground yeah I could

694
00:35:15,900 --> 00:35:07,540
adjust that had to be startling to see

695
00:35:19,140 --> 00:35:15,910
that happen yes so you saw that and then

696
00:35:27,380 --> 00:35:19,150
you turned to your left because somebody

697
00:35:39,330 --> 00:35:32,190
excuse me I saw a being about six foot

698
00:35:43,550 --> 00:35:39,340
tall weight maybe 180 pounds and he

699
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:43,560
asked me if if I was hungry

700
00:35:51,900 --> 00:35:47,530
hey I'll tell my my little there's my

701
00:35:55,099 --> 00:35:51,910
poaching payload over he floated by oh

702
00:35:55,109 --> 00:36:00,980
so you took a pill

703
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:05,810
and Danny wanted he wanted to know what

704
00:36:22,250 --> 00:36:10,770
power wanted to go with them I said as

705
00:36:29,780 --> 00:36:22,260
well oh my goodness oh did you feel you

706
00:36:32,540 --> 00:36:29,790
had to say yes not really no so you

707
00:36:39,020 --> 00:36:32,550
actually wanted to go gosh you're brave

708
00:36:45,700 --> 00:36:39,030
man what else are you seeing with him

709
00:36:54,290 --> 00:36:51,740
give me a minute no I know there must

710
00:36:56,329 --> 00:36:54,300
have been a that cubical ship type of

711
00:36:58,700 --> 00:36:56,339
thing it looked like a glass elevator he

712
00:37:03,440 --> 00:36:58,710
said so now I was reading about in the

713
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:03,450
story mm-hmm so you saw a glass elevator

714
00:37:13,220 --> 00:37:05,690
type of thing

715
00:37:21,380 --> 00:37:13,230
no I was about by proton high and five

716
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:21,390
foot wide and seven foot long hmm and so

717
00:37:29,630 --> 00:37:25,170
he took you into this thing and you saw

718
00:37:38,540 --> 00:37:29,640
the people there right yeah there was

719
00:37:46,310 --> 00:37:38,550
another being inside it and put the five

720
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:46,320
ELCA and a panda in the back and next

721
00:38:03,470 --> 00:37:59,780
like a basketball oh now we can see you

722
00:38:08,359 --> 00:38:03,480
on video so that's great okay there you

723
00:38:12,140 --> 00:38:08,369
are hi all right good good work Carl you

724
00:38:14,330 --> 00:38:12,150
did it so now what everybody's looking

725
00:38:16,550 --> 00:38:14,340
at who is watching us

726
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:16,560
Facebook that is Carl Higdon and his

727
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:19,290
beautiful wife Marjorie and we've been

728
00:38:24,110 --> 00:38:20,850
talking to about this incredible

729
00:38:27,860 --> 00:38:24,120
experience so Carl you that they

730
00:38:39,170 --> 00:38:27,870
actually took the elk and they they took

731
00:38:51,490 --> 00:38:39,180
it with them and you okay so they took

732
00:39:06,790 --> 00:38:51,500
all of this and you yeah we landed on a

733
00:39:17,290 --> 00:39:10,190
we kind of floated over to where didn't

734
00:39:24,410 --> 00:39:17,300
walk we floated to the door and went up

735
00:39:30,860 --> 00:39:24,420
and they put a poor body shield in front

736
00:39:35,330 --> 00:39:30,870
of it they said that's not what you're

737
00:39:42,230 --> 00:39:35,340
not what we mean okay Wow

738
00:39:50,240 --> 00:39:42,240
so they didn't want you that's probably

739
00:39:56,210 --> 00:39:50,250
a good thing when I get I'm sure

740
00:39:58,220 --> 00:39:56,220
Marjorie's pleased so they brought you

741
00:40:01,970 --> 00:39:58,230
back home that you were not what they

742
00:40:07,300 --> 00:40:01,980
wanted so why is it that they didn't

743
00:40:16,490 --> 00:40:07,310
want you I don't know maybe it was

744
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:16,500
because of my back they couldn't use you

745
00:40:21,650 --> 00:40:18,570
for any kind of a breeding program if

746
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:21,660
that's what they were up to I could

747
00:40:27,890 --> 00:40:25,890
maybe they wanted they wanted the elk

748
00:40:28,220 --> 00:40:27,900
now why did they want the elk did they

749
00:40:31,990 --> 00:40:28,230
want

750
00:40:35,930 --> 00:40:32,000
the elk for breeding for food per phone

751
00:40:39,490 --> 00:40:35,940
uh-huh I don't have much left on our

752
00:40:49,730 --> 00:40:39,500
planet I'll be darned

753
00:41:00,710 --> 00:40:49,740
so they came and took your elf yeah I'm

754
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:00,720
sorry I know this is a very emotional

755
00:41:04,460 --> 00:41:02,490
experience can you know can you also

756
00:41:06,230 --> 00:41:04,470
lose the camera so that he's in the

757
00:41:08,839 --> 00:41:06,240
frame Marjorie cuz we can only see like

758
00:41:15,470 --> 00:41:08,849
little tiny parts of you and Carl any

759
00:41:18,020 --> 00:41:15,480
better okay that's better yeah we can

760
00:41:20,230 --> 00:41:18,030
only imagine how emotional this is for

761
00:41:23,859 --> 00:41:20,240
you Carl I mean this is an incredible

762
00:41:27,829 --> 00:41:23,869
truly out of this world experience and

763
00:41:31,670 --> 00:41:27,839
it's it's just an amazing amazing thing

764
00:41:34,940 --> 00:41:31,680
this happened now also the producers

765
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:34,950
asking if you can hit the mic button to

766
00:41:43,460 --> 00:41:37,530
mute it Marjorie can you do that the

767
00:41:45,700 --> 00:41:43,470
little mic symbol okay and now we won't

768
00:41:48,829 --> 00:41:45,710
have any feedback so that's better

769
00:41:52,579 --> 00:41:48,839
okay so Carl they told you they were

770
00:41:54,950 --> 00:41:52,589
gonna bring you back home and so yeah

771
00:41:56,690 --> 00:41:54,960
well they dropped you off right they

772
00:41:59,690 --> 00:41:56,700
brought you back they wanted to keep

773
00:42:17,180 --> 00:41:59,700
your rifle though as I recall they

774
00:42:21,770 --> 00:42:17,190
wanted your rifle you liked it and so

775
00:42:26,390 --> 00:42:21,780
they did this man his name was awesome

776
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:28,849
and he wanted to keep your rifle but

777
00:42:35,510 --> 00:42:30,930
then he said they were not allowed to

778
00:43:01,950 --> 00:42:41,220
and so they brought me back and they

779
00:43:05,100 --> 00:43:01,960
gave you down and hurt my shoulder they

780
00:43:08,580 --> 00:43:05,110
remember that uh-huh it's very emotional

781
00:43:11,100 --> 00:43:08,590
I see that yes and again that's to me

782
00:43:13,620 --> 00:43:11,110
and everybody listening tonight this is

783
00:43:16,170 --> 00:43:13,630
the mark of a real real adventure this

784
00:43:18,870 --> 00:43:16,180
really happened to have this much

785
00:43:21,510 --> 00:43:18,880
emotion so many years later is very

786
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:21,520
telling to the truth of this story and I

787
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:23,170
hope everybody listening understands

788
00:43:28,140 --> 00:43:25,330
this this takes a lot of courage for

789
00:43:30,510 --> 00:43:28,150
Carl and Marjorie to relive this and

790
00:43:31,890 --> 00:43:30,520
share this experience with all of us and

791
00:43:45,530 --> 00:43:31,900
we're very grateful that you're doing

792
00:43:49,260 --> 00:43:45,540
that Carl and Marjorie thank you yes I

793
00:43:51,180 --> 00:43:49,270
can't even imagine this PK anyway I mean

794
00:43:54,090 --> 00:43:51,190
having to go through this it's so

795
00:43:55,980 --> 00:43:54,100
incredible to think that they would be

796
00:43:59,640 --> 00:43:55,990
able to take him like that but to see

797
00:44:02,280 --> 00:43:59,650
what he has as primitive yes you wonder

798
00:44:06,030 --> 00:44:02,290
how far in the fact that Charles said

799
00:44:08,340 --> 00:44:06,040
lack of food yes that says something

800
00:44:10,290 --> 00:44:08,350
else too but just to take the 1l why

801
00:44:12,210 --> 00:44:10,300
didn't they why were they looking for

802
00:44:14,570 --> 00:44:12,220
more food well they took all of the

803
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:14,580
alkyl apparently there were a little ice

804
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:20,530
okay so they took like the herd yeah

805
00:44:38,550 --> 00:44:35,890
yeah I did yes you know how are we gonna

806
00:44:42,690 --> 00:44:38,560
stop them we can't we have no way to

807
00:44:45,720 --> 00:44:42,700
know that yes wonderful

808
00:44:49,230 --> 00:44:45,730
what other types of foods they can eat

809
00:44:52,530 --> 00:44:49,240
or not eat but the choices

810
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:52,540
they process their proved into pills

811
00:45:03,240 --> 00:44:57,210
oh that's why he offered you the bill

812
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:03,250
asked if you are that pair horse last

813
00:45:13,980 --> 00:45:08,530
four days to them oh wow and it lasted

814
00:45:16,829 --> 00:45:13,990
about three and a half for me that's

815
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:16,839
right because Marjorie was saying you

816
00:45:23,460 --> 00:45:20,170
weren't hungry at first that's real that

817
00:45:28,940 --> 00:45:23,470
one pill really filled you up for three

818
00:45:34,380 --> 00:45:31,500
that's incredible how advanced they were

819
00:45:36,990 --> 00:45:34,390
to do that now also you said you didn't

820
00:45:40,349 --> 00:45:37,000
have fish on your planet right now fish

821
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:40,359
all right no pitch they come down and

822
00:45:47,609 --> 00:45:42,490
take fish out of the ocean

823
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:47,619
oh those sneaky things out stealing our

824
00:46:02,849 --> 00:45:50,890
fish stealing our people thank God you

825
00:46:07,799 --> 00:46:02,859
brought you back okay I live in their

826
00:46:15,990 --> 00:46:07,809
water sure water is yellow and I had a

827
00:46:21,809 --> 00:46:16,000
scientist try to people they bucked this

828
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:21,819
story and it said the reason their bow

829
00:46:31,170 --> 00:46:26,490
legs because they did not have vitamin D

830
00:46:37,490 --> 00:46:31,180
and not vitamin E so

831
00:46:40,140 --> 00:46:37,500
net count from Paltrow violent and pitch

832
00:46:47,700 --> 00:46:40,150
so I don't think they did

833
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:47,710
very good job Oh incredible incredible

834
00:46:53,100 --> 00:46:50,050
did also one tell you anything else

835
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:53,110
about their civilization he told you how

836
00:46:59,670 --> 00:46:55,570
far away they were and you you said it

837
00:47:04,170 --> 00:46:59,680
in light miles right right and we don't

838
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:04,180
know what like mod huh no we don't have

839
00:47:12,390 --> 00:47:05,490
no idea

840
00:47:15,300 --> 00:47:12,400
bring you back and then of course you

841
00:47:19,290 --> 00:47:15,310
were disoriented right you didn't know

842
00:47:24,330 --> 00:47:19,300
what happened were and your truck wasn't

843
00:47:27,420 --> 00:47:24,340
there you were trying to find a truck my

844
00:47:32,490 --> 00:47:27,430
truck was stuck in a mud hole but I

845
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:32,500
didn't know it was mine you dishes you

846
00:47:37,770 --> 00:47:34,690
didn't park it there right you did not

847
00:47:40,610 --> 00:47:37,780
leave your truck in that spot no when we

848
00:47:44,490 --> 00:47:40,620
come up when we come up off the ground

849
00:47:48,540 --> 00:47:44,500
Hazell pointed his hand at it and it

850
00:47:59,160 --> 00:47:48,550
disappeared Oh for heaven sakes I don't

851
00:48:03,720 --> 00:47:59,170
know very pretty but it's kinda hard to

852
00:48:06,240 --> 00:48:03,730
believe because it was found in a spot

853
00:48:08,430 --> 00:48:06,250
that was totally inaccessible and

854
00:48:10,290 --> 00:48:08,440
everybody said there is no way in hell

855
00:48:12,060 --> 00:48:10,300
that you could have driven it there it

856
00:48:16,410 --> 00:48:12,070
was like it had to be dropped by a

857
00:48:17,940 --> 00:48:16,420
military helicopter right there was no

858
00:48:19,740 --> 00:48:17,950
way that it could have gotten there with

859
00:48:34,410 --> 00:48:19,750
you driving it or anybody driving it

860
00:48:40,140 --> 00:48:34,420
there hey where's muddy road for about

861
00:48:41,910 --> 00:48:40,150
18 inches on both sides oh my god aatrox

862
00:48:48,390 --> 00:48:41,920
is going in

863
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:48,400
Wow there's no way that ticket she could

864
00:48:53,970 --> 00:48:49,930
drive townie

865
00:48:55,700 --> 00:48:53,980
son give the four-wheel drives that come

866
00:49:01,470 --> 00:48:55,710
in there

867
00:49:03,240 --> 00:49:01,480
they cut Cree down to make her own well

868
00:49:05,550 --> 00:49:03,250
we're gonna come back in just a minute

869
00:49:08,460 --> 00:49:05,560
Carl and we're gonna have you continue

870
00:49:09,900 --> 00:49:08,470
with your story and what happened and

871
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:09,910
everything else about it we're gonna

872
00:49:13,710 --> 00:49:12,370
talk about that bullet again and we're

873
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:13,720
just gonna take a very short break

874
00:49:17,730 --> 00:49:15,370
everybody you are listening to

875
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:17,740
supernatural girls radio we will be

876
00:49:20,670 --> 00:49:18,490
right back

877
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:20,680
natural girls radio I'm your host

878
00:49:26,580 --> 00:49:22,690
Patricia Baker I am here with my co-host

879
00:49:29,070 --> 00:49:26,590
PK and the most intriguing guests I

880
00:49:31,650 --> 00:49:29,080
think we have ever had on the show we

881
00:49:34,530 --> 00:49:31,660
have Marjorie and Karl Higdon with us

882
00:49:36,750 --> 00:49:34,540
tonight talking about an incredible

883
00:49:38,490 --> 00:49:36,760
abduction experience and if you're

884
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:38,500
watching us on video you can also see

885
00:49:44,820 --> 00:49:41,410
their adorable dog doc who has just

886
00:49:47,010 --> 00:49:44,830
joined us is the sweetest little dog but

887
00:49:49,710 --> 00:49:47,020
Carl we've been talking and Marjorie

888
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:49,720
we've been talking about the bullet now

889
00:49:55,590 --> 00:49:52,090
that I will tell you I contacted a

890
00:49:58,650 --> 00:49:55,600
friend of mine who handled a munitions

891
00:50:02,940 --> 00:49:58,660
for the New York City Police Department

892
00:50:05,070 --> 00:50:02,950
and he trained snipers also and I showed

893
00:50:06,990 --> 00:50:05,080
him your article I showed him the

894
00:50:10,020 --> 00:50:07,000
picture of the bullet that Marjorie had

895
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:10,030
studio shots taken up and he said

896
00:50:18,540 --> 00:50:14,410
Patricia I have never ever seen anything

897
00:50:22,130 --> 00:50:18,550
like this in all my years of working

898
00:50:24,630 --> 00:50:22,140
with the police and with ammunition

899
00:50:27,150 --> 00:50:24,640
never seen anything like this from a

900
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:27,160
commercial weapon ever so it had

901
00:50:32,250 --> 00:50:28,810
basically been turned inside out

902
00:50:37,490 --> 00:50:32,260
and all the lead was gone right that's

903
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:42,210
he had a force field up because it

904
00:50:45,330 --> 00:50:43,690
didn't find its target because you

905
00:50:47,940 --> 00:50:45,340
pointed it at the alka didn't hit the

906
00:50:52,350 --> 00:50:47,950
elk and you said you saw it just kind of

907
00:50:54,450 --> 00:50:52,360
floating and then drop but you picked it

908
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:54,460
up which was it was great that you

909
00:51:01,559 --> 00:50:55,690
picked it up and put it

910
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:01,569
in your canteen mm-hmm hi dad dad my

911
00:51:13,829 --> 00:51:08,490
poor that took me huh actually I don't

912
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:13,839
know think it's an abduction I agreed to

913
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:18,490
always you agreed to go so you don't

914
00:51:22,730 --> 00:51:20,290
think of it as they kidnapped you you

915
00:51:29,420 --> 00:51:22,740
think of it as you went along with it

916
00:51:37,589 --> 00:51:33,809
I think I'll take a trip Carl I was

917
00:51:40,980 --> 00:51:37,599
wondering if because you said the you

918
00:51:43,589 --> 00:51:40,990
didn't hit the elk with it were the eltz

919
00:51:46,770 --> 00:51:43,599
that they took did they take them living

920
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:46,780
as yeah on the hoof shall we say as

921
00:51:57,180 --> 00:51:53,130
opposed to a sleeper or what have you

922
00:52:01,440 --> 00:51:57,190
well all I know is they floated across

923
00:52:07,910 --> 00:52:01,450
to peel mm-hmm and we're put in the back

924
00:52:14,730 --> 00:52:11,670
shall we all fit in that little cute

925
00:52:18,870 --> 00:52:14,740
tear McCoy but they were the elk were

926
00:52:20,940 --> 00:52:18,880
alive at the time yes so that's probably

927
00:52:22,410 --> 00:52:20,950
why they were alive he wanted to keep

928
00:52:28,740 --> 00:52:22,420
them alive that's why they didn't let

929
00:52:31,410 --> 00:52:28,750
the bullet hit them well I guess huh you

930
00:52:33,240 --> 00:52:31,420
also saw people in there humans right

931
00:52:40,109 --> 00:52:33,250
there you saw other human beings in

932
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:40,119
there oh there was a man and three or

933
00:52:48,630 --> 00:52:43,770
four kids they were standing on the

934
00:52:52,940 --> 00:52:48,640
outside of this deal we went into when

935
00:52:56,030 --> 00:52:52,950
we come out they looked like humans so I

936
00:52:59,700 --> 00:52:56,040
don't know what they were doing there

937
00:53:04,740 --> 00:52:59,710
but they were talking amongst ourselves

938
00:53:09,070 --> 00:53:04,750
like nothing was wrong oh I don't know

939
00:53:13,660 --> 00:53:09,080
it may be these guys that got me

940
00:53:19,090 --> 00:53:13,670
were not human maybe they were hand

941
00:53:22,150 --> 00:53:19,100
roids oh that's a possibility death yes

942
00:53:26,380 --> 00:53:22,160
that's a possibility absolutely yes

943
00:53:30,310 --> 00:53:26,390
hey they did not walk they floated

944
00:53:37,350 --> 00:53:30,320
wherever they went they just floated

945
00:53:45,540 --> 00:53:41,340
these bend it hot scene up there

946
00:53:49,180 --> 00:53:45,550
Mike Malone er I don't know

947
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:49,190
yeah that's it's hard to say now another

948
00:53:54,100 --> 00:53:51,650
thing that we just talked about off the

949
00:53:56,290 --> 00:53:54,110
air which we all find fascinating is

950
00:53:59,380 --> 00:53:56,300
that you still have a telepathic

951
00:54:05,920 --> 00:53:59,390
connection with also one you can still

952
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:05,930
speak to him yeah

953
00:54:38,470 --> 00:54:31,870
about two weeks ago I told him I needed

954
00:54:43,410 --> 00:54:38,480
some rain the next day I got three

955
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:43,420
inches of rain what else the day after

956
00:54:58,570 --> 00:54:56,050
we got to shut it out oh my goodness so

957
00:55:02,080 --> 00:54:58,580
like a good friend if he does something

958
00:55:12,370 --> 00:55:02,090
like that for you hmm

959
00:55:17,260 --> 00:55:12,380
I think he likes you could me I can ask

960
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:17,270
him questions like how long will you

961
00:55:35,350 --> 00:55:33,280
hello hmm you mean you can ask him like

962
00:55:38,590 --> 00:55:35,360
how long I would live and he would know

963
00:55:42,730 --> 00:55:38,600
is that what you're saying yeah yeah nah

964
00:56:00,180 --> 00:55:42,740
my goodness my husband wants to know so

965
00:56:04,020 --> 00:56:00,190
he could buy the insurance policy I

966
00:56:14,110 --> 00:56:04,030
asked him about one of my wife's boat

967
00:56:18,820 --> 00:56:14,120
policies and he had cancer and I asked

968
00:56:22,890 --> 00:56:18,830
him is he gonna be okay he came back and

969
00:56:28,570 --> 00:56:22,900
said yeah he'll be home a month or so

970
00:56:36,720 --> 00:56:28,580
they'll be fine he come back he was

971
00:56:43,780 --> 00:56:40,570
incredible I'm amazed at this aren't you

972
00:56:47,230 --> 00:56:43,790
PK this is like this stutters yeah this

973
00:56:49,900 --> 00:56:47,240
is the first time I've heard this type

974
00:56:52,930 --> 00:56:49,910
of an interaction this kind of

975
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:52,940
friendship where you're able to

976
00:56:57,700 --> 00:56:55,490
communicate with somebody from another

977
00:57:01,210 --> 00:56:57,710
galaxy I think he's from another galaxy

978
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:01,220
who knows but yeah yeah I mean this is a

979
00:57:06,700 --> 00:57:04,370
there's a a really touching thing about

980
00:57:09,780 --> 00:57:06,710
this relationship you have with him is

981
00:57:14,410 --> 00:57:09,790
the first I've heard of it yeah

982
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:14,420
it's a it's a blessing we had two

983
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:20,450
questions please join us we also have a

984
00:57:27,790 --> 00:57:23,330
certificate from the psychiatry

985
00:57:31,570 --> 00:57:27,800
because he does not have any mental

986
00:57:38,230 --> 00:57:31,580
illnesses well I would not think so he's

987
00:57:41,670 --> 00:57:38,240
too bright yes very down-to-earth people

988
00:57:45,310 --> 00:57:41,680
I mean your your very down to earth and

989
00:57:49,510 --> 00:57:45,320
very methodical you know about how you

990
00:57:51,850 --> 00:57:49,520
go about things so it's it's just again

991
00:57:54,970 --> 00:57:51,860
the amazing experience that took you out

992
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:54,980
of this reality and to another but I'm

993
00:58:00,580 --> 00:57:57,050
so impressed with your friendship with

994
00:58:03,700 --> 00:58:00,590
also one and I think again it really

995
00:58:08,620 --> 00:58:03,710
says something about who you both are as

996
00:58:11,260 --> 00:58:08,630
people that you are taken more or less

997
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:11,270
under the wing of these advanced beings

998
00:58:16,630 --> 00:58:14,290
they must have respect for you which is

999
00:58:20,020 --> 00:58:16,640
unusual I mean because we must be like

1000
00:58:22,980 --> 00:58:20,030
ants to them you know but here here's

1001
00:58:26,950 --> 00:58:22,990
this friendship that you've developed

1002
00:58:30,810 --> 00:58:26,960
I'm just my heart is no love I mean I

1003
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:30,820
just feel so amazed at this experience

1004
00:58:35,740 --> 00:58:34,370
this way it's it's incredible it's just

1005
00:58:38,830 --> 00:58:35,750
an incredible experience

1006
00:58:43,950 --> 00:58:38,840
no human you have you have you been told

1007
00:58:50,140 --> 00:58:43,960
anything to enhance your personal life

1008
00:59:01,750 --> 00:58:50,150
no so it's it's strictly on that makes

1009
00:59:07,500 --> 00:59:01,760
good sense also exactly can't help but

1010
00:59:10,540 --> 00:59:07,510
don't know yet oh okay you're on earth

1011
00:59:17,290 --> 00:59:10,550
okay can you be told something that's

1012
00:59:21,030 --> 00:59:17,300
going to take place know what I said can

1013
00:59:23,410 --> 00:59:21,040
he be told anything that may take place

1014
00:59:29,940 --> 00:59:23,420
sometimes if something that's coming in

1015
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:29,950
the future they probably could yeah I

1016
00:59:36,049 --> 00:59:31,930
just don't

1017
00:59:42,089 --> 00:59:36,059
I don't look at the future I'm down

1018
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:42,099
downstairs strictly one day at a time

1019
00:59:45,329 --> 00:59:43,930
that's that's nothing wrong with that

1020
00:59:46,740 --> 00:59:45,339
that's right

1021
00:59:48,900 --> 00:59:46,750
yes I'm types a little bit of dollar

1022
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:48,910
just too much that's right

1023
01:00:03,960 --> 00:59:51,010
no Marjorie have you ever had any

1024
01:00:12,019 --> 01:00:03,970
dealings with also one you've seen it's

1025
01:00:16,470 --> 01:00:12,029
in the sky well I'd be sleeping it night

1026
01:00:19,099 --> 01:00:16,480
and wake up say we gotta go so we're

1027
01:00:22,589 --> 01:00:19,109
going how sap

1028
01:00:29,730 --> 01:00:22,599
so we went out south then we're supposed

1029
01:00:33,900 --> 01:00:29,740
to sit on this hill and we sit there for

1030
01:00:38,539 --> 01:00:33,910
about 15 minutes and we drove down so we

1031
01:00:41,819 --> 01:00:38,549
got done back down on the main road this

1032
01:00:46,289 --> 01:00:41,829
looked like an ice cream cone upside

1033
01:00:49,490 --> 01:00:46,299
down shot from something about a hundred

1034
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:49,500
and fifty to two hundred feet in there

1035
01:01:02,880 --> 01:00:56,410
and then we smelt horrible like I don't

1036
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:02,890
know dirty socks her yeah and so polite

1037
01:01:16,470 --> 01:01:07,450
I told her I've had a good time we

1038
01:01:21,420 --> 01:01:16,480
wasn't I don't know what they might have

1039
01:01:25,140 --> 01:01:21,430
took me and my wife and my son George

1040
01:01:28,710 --> 01:01:25,150
witness and they might have took us

1041
01:01:31,500 --> 01:01:28,720
again I don't know yeah you don't know

1042
01:01:33,900 --> 01:01:31,510
when in this situation but you you said

1043
01:01:36,109 --> 01:01:33,910
you were followed by lights in the sky

1044
01:01:40,819 --> 01:01:36,119
for a long time after the initial

1045
01:01:47,930 --> 01:01:45,510
my crew members even song huh heaven

1046
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:47,940
sakes there wasn't just me

1047
01:01:52,910 --> 01:01:50,650
at least bit shy about letting you know

1048
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:52,920
they were around then that's right

1049
01:01:58,950 --> 01:01:55,450
that's right they let you know they're

1050
01:02:03,569 --> 01:01:58,960
watching they were watching you hmm

1051
01:02:05,490 --> 01:02:03,579
gosh well why do you think they came to

1052
01:02:21,060 --> 01:02:05,500
you do you think it was just right place

1053
01:02:32,540 --> 01:02:21,070
right time wrong time they might have

1054
01:02:38,819 --> 01:02:35,930
oh okay

1055
01:02:44,430 --> 01:02:38,829
so other people have reported seeing

1056
01:02:48,210 --> 01:02:44,440
things okay okay so it's an the whole

1057
01:02:55,099 --> 01:02:48,220
area is is mystical for some reason

1058
01:03:03,740 --> 01:03:00,510
take pictures of the area a lot of them

1059
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:03,750
would not go down into the actual area

1060
01:03:12,420 --> 01:03:08,890
they said it was too weird to they

1061
01:03:19,109 --> 01:03:12,430
refuse to go into the actual area so

1062
01:03:28,010 --> 01:03:19,119
they were they were spooked yeah yeah

1063
01:03:34,099 --> 01:03:30,690
the one think was really pray to it

1064
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:34,109
where did you had the Japanese nothing

1065
01:03:43,069 --> 01:03:41,530
really they came and did a video down

1066
01:03:45,750 --> 01:03:43,079
there uh-huh

1067
01:03:52,110 --> 01:03:45,760
and they were they were afraid or they

1068
01:03:58,350 --> 01:03:56,850
you know right about you did they say

1069
01:04:03,870 --> 01:03:58,360
anything about what they were feeling or

1070
01:04:06,020 --> 01:04:03,880
what they anticipated the fear of no I

1071
01:04:13,860 --> 01:04:06,030
don't know what they were afraid that

1072
01:04:21,270 --> 01:04:13,870
maybe they've prayed that yeah yes they

1073
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:21,280
could have been now when people heard

1074
01:04:27,660 --> 01:04:24,730
about this story this is back in 74 and

1075
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:27,670
then on to 75 when you had your

1076
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:29,770
television shows done you were also on

1077
01:04:34,890 --> 01:04:32,650
Leonard Nimoy's in search of they did a

1078
01:04:38,130 --> 01:04:34,900
segment about your story which I know is

1079
01:04:41,190 --> 01:04:38,140
excellent how did people treat you after

1080
01:04:43,590 --> 01:04:41,200
that were they accepting of this an

1081
01:04:49,710 --> 01:04:43,600
accepting of you were they supportive or

1082
01:04:52,950 --> 01:04:49,720
not I'm on the head one person say that

1083
01:04:57,500 --> 01:04:52,960
I was crazy and I talked to her for

1084
01:05:05,750 --> 01:04:57,510
about 30 minutes on the telephone she

1085
01:05:10,710 --> 01:05:08,370
that's good well you know and I think

1086
01:05:14,790 --> 01:05:10,720
it's it sounds like you live in a

1087
01:05:17,100 --> 01:05:14,800
community that is supportive and you all

1088
01:05:19,230 --> 01:05:17,110
stick together which is a good thing

1089
01:05:21,450 --> 01:05:19,240
because there's so many people that have

1090
01:05:24,270 --> 01:05:21,460
these experiences and then they get

1091
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:24,280
treated so badly and so I'm really glad

1092
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:26,170
to hear you were treated you were

1093
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:28,690
treated well by your community at large

1094
01:05:34,260 --> 01:05:31,410
that's a wonderful thing to hear

1095
01:05:39,810 --> 01:05:34,270
definitely did it affect the children at

1096
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:39,820
all even on my boss Mazda's felt the

1097
01:05:48,540 --> 01:05:45,610
same way they never said they accepted

1098
01:05:52,610 --> 01:05:48,550
it like it was good

1099
01:05:58,190 --> 01:05:52,620
wonder fantastic you know that is great

1100
01:06:02,070 --> 01:05:58,200
fact is a year after has happened to me

1101
01:06:03,260 --> 01:06:02,080
another company hired me for more money

1102
01:06:09,359 --> 01:06:03,270
than

1103
01:06:15,030 --> 01:06:09,369
making the poor well that's great second

1104
01:06:22,170 --> 01:06:15,040
long run yeah that's one that I had he

1105
01:06:26,700 --> 01:06:22,180
did anyway yeah that's good and I'll run

1106
01:06:28,010 --> 01:06:26,710
their World Service business for five

1107
01:06:34,620 --> 01:06:28,020
years

1108
01:06:38,670 --> 01:06:34,630
Victorian drilling and well service now

1109
01:06:43,620 --> 01:06:38,680
I had several man under me working and I

1110
01:06:46,170 --> 01:06:43,630
had no problem with none of them yes

1111
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:46,180
this is excellent that's really good to

1112
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:49,330
hear I have regained my faith in the

1113
01:06:53,089 --> 01:06:52,570
human race hearing that that's good very

1114
01:07:03,720 --> 01:06:53,099
good

1115
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:03,730
Wow they said if it was anybody besides

1116
01:07:10,050 --> 01:07:07,090
Carl they would not have believed it but

1117
01:07:14,579 --> 01:07:10,060
no kidding Carl they believed it he's a

1118
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:14,589
matter of fact oh that's great yes and

1119
01:07:19,829 --> 01:07:17,290
you can see there today I mean you're

1120
01:07:22,470 --> 01:07:19,839
both matter-of-fact people you're both

1121
01:07:24,540 --> 01:07:22,480
down to earth I can tell you both

1122
01:07:26,700 --> 01:07:24,550
wouldn't lie you make you would never

1123
01:07:30,300 --> 01:07:26,710
make up a story like this and besides it

1124
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:30,310
so again outside of what you grew up

1125
01:07:35,430 --> 01:07:33,130
with what you knew about it just

1126
01:07:37,140 --> 01:07:35,440
wouldn't it's not possible I mean this

1127
01:07:38,849 --> 01:07:37,150
really happened that we have no doubt

1128
01:07:43,980 --> 01:07:38,859
and I know our audience has no doubt

1129
01:07:45,540 --> 01:07:43,990
that this truly did happen and Marjorie

1130
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:45,550
can you get back on the phone for a

1131
01:07:54,060 --> 01:07:49,530
second I just want to ask you a question

1132
01:07:57,329 --> 01:07:54,070
okay go ahead um you know I'm just very

1133
01:08:00,750 --> 01:07:57,339
curious in terms of how this you see you

1134
01:08:02,430 --> 01:08:00,760
see this affecting your life in Carl's

1135
01:08:05,609 --> 01:08:02,440
life do you see it in a positive light

1136
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:05,619
do you see that it was or how do you see

1137
01:08:09,300 --> 01:08:07,450
it I mean I just I'm gonna shut up and

1138
01:08:13,290 --> 01:08:09,310
just ask you the question how do you see

1139
01:08:15,839 --> 01:08:13,300
it well the way I see it if it hadn't

1140
01:08:17,050 --> 01:08:15,849
been for dr. sprinkle with neither one

1141
01:08:20,559 --> 01:08:17,060
of us would probably

1142
01:08:24,550 --> 01:08:20,569
be here tell us a little more about that

1143
01:08:28,230 --> 01:08:24,560
I wrote the book that I wrote I had to

1144
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:28,240
write it about 20 years ago for my own

1145
01:08:41,650 --> 01:08:33,250
therapy trying to understand this mm-hmm

1146
01:08:45,340 --> 01:08:41,660
that kind of hypnosis with a pendulum

1147
01:08:47,500 --> 01:08:45,350
for Carl and I know Leo is a true healer

1148
01:08:50,980 --> 01:08:47,510
so I'm sure all of that really helped

1149
01:08:53,470 --> 01:08:50,990
put things in perspective not only that

1150
01:08:57,730 --> 01:08:53,480
Carl could call him in the middle of the

1151
01:09:01,360 --> 01:08:57,740
night and talk to him we had a lot of

1152
01:09:05,620 --> 01:09:01,370
things after this happened that happened

1153
01:09:09,480 --> 01:09:05,630
because of this and it's in my book that

1154
01:09:14,470 --> 01:09:09,490
Carl would have to talk to sprinkle and

1155
01:09:17,470 --> 01:09:14,480
try to understand it because Carl was

1156
01:09:19,990 --> 01:09:17,480
sure for a lot of times that he had to

1157
01:09:22,900 --> 01:09:20,000
have dreamt this he said it's just too

1158
01:09:30,490 --> 01:09:22,910
bizarre and I told him there's the

1159
01:09:34,300 --> 01:09:30,500
bullet there's the hospital bill that's

1160
01:09:36,340 --> 01:09:34,310
right there was the search party and and

1161
01:09:39,579 --> 01:09:36,350
there was all this other proof that we

1162
01:09:41,380 --> 01:09:39,589
have that something happened

1163
01:09:42,670 --> 01:09:41,390
Marjorie can you move a little closer so

1164
01:09:45,550 --> 01:09:42,680
we can see you and you move a little

1165
01:09:48,540 --> 01:09:45,560
closer to Carl there we want to see your

1166
01:09:51,670 --> 01:09:48,550
pretty face here thank you

1167
01:09:54,370 --> 01:09:51,680
well again a big thank you goes out to

1168
01:09:57,700 --> 01:09:54,380
Leo sprinkle doctor sprinkle is very

1169
01:10:00,040 --> 01:09:57,710
valuable in your integration of this

1170
01:10:02,860 --> 01:10:00,050
experience in your recovery from the

1171
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:02,870
shock of it so thank goodness for

1172
01:10:07,630 --> 01:10:05,210
doctors sprinkle and we give a big shout

1173
01:10:11,470 --> 01:10:07,640
out to Leo he's certainly a dear friend

1174
01:10:12,940 --> 01:10:11,480
to so many and we appreciate he's he's a

1175
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:12,950
great guy they hadn't been for him we

1176
01:10:17,260 --> 01:10:15,650
wouldn't have met you all and we were

1177
01:10:19,390 --> 01:10:17,270
very grateful I mean this is an

1178
01:10:22,260 --> 01:10:19,400
incredible story I can't wait for you to

1179
01:10:25,210 --> 01:10:22,270
finish your book exist so that we can

1180
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:25,220
everybody so everybody can buy this as I

1181
01:10:30,460 --> 01:10:27,650
know we barely scratched the surface of

1182
01:10:30,879 --> 01:10:30,470
all of what has happened I know I've

1183
01:10:33,580 --> 01:10:30,889
read

1184
01:10:36,310 --> 01:10:33,590
countless articles but still we learned

1185
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:36,320
even more tonight during the interview

1186
01:10:41,740 --> 01:10:39,650
though this is a story that has to be

1187
01:10:43,959 --> 01:10:41,750
told and we're so glad you're writing it

1188
01:10:47,590 --> 01:10:43,969
down Marjorie we're so happy that you're

1189
01:10:48,609 --> 01:10:47,600
doing that but the book should be out in

1190
01:10:51,580 --> 01:10:48,619
about a month

1191
01:11:07,660 --> 01:10:51,590
Oh wonderful just in time for a

1192
01:11:11,109 --> 01:11:07,670
Christmas gift right yes yes to anybody

1193
01:11:15,540 --> 01:11:11,119
after yeah doctor doctor sprinkle or

1194
01:11:19,330 --> 01:11:15,550
talk to somebody you know in truth

1195
01:11:23,950 --> 01:11:19,340
that's great advice yeah you don't want

1196
01:11:27,010 --> 01:11:23,960
to keep it all inside you can't sprinkle

1197
01:11:30,570 --> 01:11:27,020
who is able to help you through this and

1198
01:11:33,850 --> 01:11:30,580
help you understand all of it

1199
01:11:36,310 --> 01:11:33,860
then get on with your life don't dwell

1200
01:11:38,830 --> 01:11:36,320
on it that's and what I heard Marjorie

1201
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:38,840
also say is don't dwell on it just keep

1202
01:11:46,930 --> 01:11:43,730
on going right right that's right well

1203
01:11:49,629 --> 01:11:46,940
thank you all so much for coming on the

1204
01:11:54,550 --> 01:11:49,639
show Thank You doc for being so adorable

1205
01:11:57,700 --> 01:11:54,560
you can watching you it's been a joy

1206
01:12:00,040 --> 01:11:57,710
talking to both of you I'm sure we're

1207
01:12:03,370 --> 01:12:00,050
gonna have you back on the show once

1208
01:12:06,129 --> 01:12:03,380
your book is out and now and for

1209
01:12:08,229 --> 01:12:06,139
everybody of two books coming out so as

1210
01:12:11,050 --> 01:12:08,239
soon as they're available Marjorie

1211
01:12:14,020 --> 01:12:11,060
please let us know and we will announce

1212
01:12:16,540 --> 01:12:14,030
it on our Facebook page and also on our

1213
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:16,550
website and also everybody please go to

1214
01:12:22,750 --> 01:12:19,010
our Facebook page in the post I put up

1215
01:12:25,810 --> 01:12:22,760
about the Karl higdon abduction you will

1216
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:25,820
find photographs of the bullet of the

1217
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:31,489
truck drawings of also one and you will

1218
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:35,449
also see many other things there is a

1219
01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:38,330
picture of the craft what that looks

1220
01:12:43,810 --> 01:12:41,330
like all kinds of fascinating little

1221
01:12:44,710 --> 01:12:43,820
pieces of information on our Facebook

1222
01:12:49,170 --> 01:12:44,720
page

1223
01:12:53,170 --> 01:12:49,180
so Carl and Marge are you still there no

1224
01:12:55,270 --> 01:12:53,180
okay well again many thanks much love to

1225
01:12:58,660 --> 01:12:55,280
you both for having the courage to speak

1226
01:13:03,820 --> 01:12:58,670
about this and again we wish you all the

1227
01:13:06,460 --> 01:13:03,830
best much love to you thank you okay you

1228
01:13:08,260 --> 01:13:06,470
take care and everybody in our audience

1229
01:13:11,050 --> 01:13:08,270
thanks for listening we'll be back next

1230
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:11,060
week with another exciting show who do

1231
01:13:16,630 --> 01:13:13,730
we have next week we have a young lady

1232
01:13:19,450 --> 01:13:16,640
that with her red peg

1233
01:13:21,910 --> 01:13:19,460
we'll start with that how's that hey we

1234
01:13:24,010 --> 01:13:21,920
gonna be with this next week hey is with

1235
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:24,020
us next week until then we'll see you on